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12 November, 2007, Custer Mistake on Fort Tours
Upon reading your Custer posting, here am I moved to clarify your conjecture that General Custer was seeking the White House or the Philadelphia fair from a source who probably knew his motives in General Custer himself and his wife, Libby, in their personal letters.
Mrs. Custer made a point that General Custer was not adept at all at public speaking and the few times he tried he could only utter a few words and left the stage. The personal letters of the Custer's mark one offering of enormous sums of money in that day of tens of thousands of dollars if he would promote a show like Buffalo Bill's. History notes he instead chose valor in testifying before Congress about the corruption of the Grant administration which cost him his command. It was only through General Terry changing the orders that Custer was even allowed to lead the 7th. Terry time and again in the 1876 campaign either was lost in Montana, was requesting Custer to find a route through the badlands or was leaving operations to Custer as Terry was inexperienced in Indian warfare.
Nowhere in the Custer personal letters are there mentions of the White House (except before he was removed in President Grant refusing to meet with him) nor any plans on attending any fair. General Custer's letters consistantly in June of 1876 speak of his assuring Libby he is staying inside the lines, is no longer hunting, is having the best time of his life once again on a campaign now using mule trains which he prefers, telling Libby "if this is all this campaign is you certainly can come" and he is urging her to come up by steamboat to join him...as he is hopeful that a victory in the hammer and anvil will have them all on the way back to Fort Lincoln.
The sources I quote in addition are official records and comments by General Nelson Miles. While I do not put you into the category of uninformed commentators, too many do not in commenting on Custer or the Little Big Horn even realize that General Miles wrote the definitive work on the battle which Mrs. Custer quoted as he rode the exact ground.
There was nothing reckless at all in what General Custer did. His tactics had proven against like odds at the Washita and the Yellowstone in 1875 successful. The problem is not General Crook stalling the Sioux at Rosebud, but that Maj. Reno on scout failed to chase and attack the Indians which were moving up the Rosebud. It was this group of 1000 warriors which Custer and all parties deemed they would be fighting. No one knew a much larger encampment was coming from the north to the Little Big Horn. Custer extols the lost opportunity which Reno lost in not following orders in wasting time. He concludes that now the Indians will discover their operations and scatter which would be a disaster as it was proven time and again on the southern plains campaigns.
In official orders and consultations approved by General Terry, General Custer was to pursue the tribe Reno did not "with only enough soldiers to not scare the Indians, but instead to entice a battle with the 7th".
As General Miles noted, General Custer acted perfectly according to military doctrine. In my later reading of court martial material, there is strong evidence by Maj.Reno asking Capt. Benteen to lie on another matter that both of them had lied about the Battle of the Little Big Horn in not being able to assist Custer. In fact, in Benteen's July 5th account to his wife of the battle, he comes off as rather strange heartless creature who asks her to keep the note of Cooke (bring packs) as a valuable souvenier, discusses how all will be promoted with the deaths of the officers and then lies stating it was Custer's group cheering at 4 miles away which alerted the Indians. Anyone from Texas to the Canadian prairies knows that sounds do not carry that far on the plains.
This is part of the research I have been writing about and I hope the mistaken conjecture will be given a caveat on your page as if anything, General Custer was very content in having Dakota under his command. He though was persecuted while others like Col. Richard Irving Dodge stating the same facts of the corruption of the Indian Department paid with his life for the settling of America against Indian despots who led their people to certain extermination if they had continued.
If I may, I know the first time I read General Miles official report on the Little Big Horn that I was astounded as I had read books stating no one knew what happened and he knew exactly what occurred. The same goes for the many people writing books about General Custer with an ax to grind have never bothered to read the hundreds of letters available.
There has been a great effort since 1876 begun by the war profiteers and the Indian apologists covering up it was their policy which caused the deaths of Indians and Americans. This was taken up by the same children covering up their parent's misdeeds and transferred in the 60's to liberal Hollywood who believed the Indian was this Cooper faux noble and not the rather amoral opportunist all savages are. General Custer has born the brunt of this unfairly and the lie keeps building for the same political reasons of today in mafia gaming casinos are needed to sheer the Indian gaming as they are "still the poor wards of the government".
I too 20 years ago without reading the letters had thought General Custer was after the White House, but I have instead found a man hiding in a chicken coup from onlookers to starving at dinner parties in New York as he was invited to dinner and all he was doing is telling stories.
In conclusion, he spoke of growing old with her and his greatest joy of having like a character he read of, "having a library room in the attic with a ladder he could pull up after him to be away from the world with Libby".
Thank you for your time and I intend this correspondence with complete respect as I very much enjoy the old stories you have posted. It is just that the love Libby had for her husband, has gained loyalty in me for both of them and I simply try to inform people to the best of my ability of the recorded facts. The cover up by Washington and the Indian apologists with the lies of Benteen and Reno did save them, but as the records show the same military of George Custer and many of the officers who had sons with him exacted justice on those two people so the dead could rest in peace. Those officers could not go public, but they knew Custer was not at fault and knew exactly where the problem was in Reno was prone to cowardice and Benteen whom Custer had tried constantly to befriend had not followed orders and left his commanding officer and troops to fend for themselves.
Thank you for your time and God bless, Always, Jess
5 November, 2007, Joe Don and Wahoo
Bless you for the printing the stories. I once saw Joe Don at Knights Gun Shop. I was too intimidated to try to meet him and his friend and, back then, people kinda respected other peoples “space”. Oddly enough, the sighting took place shortly after another machine gun episode that happened close to Midland where Joe Don Loony and Vernon McFarland had been rabbit hunting with a Thompson and were caught by the local game warden. Vernon McFarland married Wahoo’s sister and later committed suicide. These people were legendary in West Texas for their exploits. I believe Joe Don’s dad was somehow connected to, or did business with Ralph Lowe Oil Company in Midland, which might explain the rabbit hunting episode. There was not a lot to do in West Texas except get into mischief. Wahoo may have been recruited by U Texas and like Loony, ended up in Oklahoma. Wahoo’s somehow ended up riding to college in a brand new Cadillac or something like that.(strange things happened in recruiting back then).
21 May, 2007, Compliments for a Site Well Made
I would like to compliment you on the Fort Tours Site... and especially the Ghosts of the Cross Timbers. stumbled upon your site by accident and now cannot seem to keep off it. I mentioned your site to several other friends and all have been amazed at the wealth of information you have collected and made available.
In one hours worth of time, I found more facts and actual accounts of the history of the area I live in (right off Silver Creek Road and Confederate Park Road area) than I have in six years worth of my own personal research.
Thanks again for such a great and informative website. James Hobbs
8 September, 2006, 13 Soldiers & 2 Children
Cinda's email address was not functional so I am sending this to you with the hope that it will reach those @ crosstimbers.org
1 Sept, 2006, Robert M. Coleman
My son who was born on 08-20-06 is a by past records a geat-great-great-great-grandson of Robert Coleman. His great-aunt has had letters from other people with Texas history. I am needing to get as much information as I can for my son. I am an Oklahoma State Trooper and want to make sure that the history is not lost and to make sure Nataniel, knows were his blood comes from.
If anyone has any additional information regarding Robert M. Coleman, please contact Fort Tours and we will put you in touch with the author of the above e-mail. Thanks, Lea Ann Rector, Fort Tours
19 May, 2006, Love Your Site
Hi Rick, just wanted to let you know how much I am enjoying your site! I was especially interested in the Web Gilbert and Roe Littlefield stories. My husbands family lived in that area along the Brazos and is related to them. I have a story on my website you might like to read about an Indian fight at Cox Prairie.
12 May, 2006, The Box Family
Hi, I googled my Great Grandmothers name (Margaret Box Brunson) on a whim and found the article from Forttours.com. I have done extensive research on the whole incident. The young daughter that jumped off the horse to give her mother some water from her shoe was my Great Grandmother. I tracked down a report that my Great Great Grandmother(Mary Box) had written and gave to Captain Andrew Sheridian 3rd US Infantry at Fort Dodge,Kansas. It states pretty much the same information that you have. My Great Grandmother (Margaret Box) later married Daniel Brunson, son of Captain Allen Brunson, and they later homsteaded in eastern Montana. This was a wonderful find for me, Thank You, Barbara Hughley
21 March, 2006 Road Trip Ideas
Hello, I am writing in regards to your wonderful website -- what a great thing you have done putting that together for people to enjoy -- thank you!! I am planning my trip home to Michigan from Arizona (I spend the winter with my sister). Your site inspired me to plan my trip around visiting forts. I stopped by the AAA office today and picked up maps and guide books but your site is more helpful and certainly more informative.
I depart from Gold Canyon, AZ and will be traveling southeast on I-10 into Las Cruces, New Mexico. Are there any forts along that part of the trip? From Las Cruces, I will go into Texas and visit; Forts Davis, Stockton, McKavett and Concho then onto Nacogdoches, TX as it is listed as the oldest town in Texas. Then on to Fort St. Jean Baptiste in Louisiana. Then I am headed to Stamps, Arkansas which is where one of my favorite autors was raised. Next I want to see Arkansas Post National Memorial.
Now here is where I need some help. I want to go over into Northern Mississippi, then up through Tennessee, Kentucky, Indiana to Michigan. Can you suggest forts that would be along that route. I have A LOT of flexibility in my travel. I am disabled and travel with my service dog. We just meander home as we please.
Thank you in advance for any assistance you can offer. Sincerely, Brenda and Sunny the wonder dog
Hi Brenda, It's wonderful that you are able to take a long road trip. We have some suggestions for you. You said: I depart from Gold Canyon, AZ and will be traveling southeast on I-10 into Las Cruces, New Mexico. Are there any forts along that part of the trip? From Las Cruces,
We have a map at the following link that might help you out. http://www.forttours.com/pages/texnewmex.asp
I will go into Texas and visit; Forts Davis, Stockton, McKavett and Concho then onto Nacogdoches, TX as it is listed as the oldest town in Texas.
If you can make it, Parker's Fort in Groesbeck is a great fort to visit. You can learn more about it at the following link on our site: http://www.forttours.com/pages/tocparker.asp
Now here is where I need some help. I want to go over into Northern Mississippi, then up through Tennessee, Kentucky, Indiana to Michigan.
You might want to check out our forts page and make a route from there. We have it broken down by areas which you can see on the maps. Just click on them and it will provide a printable map. Here is the link for the forts page: http://www.forttours.com/pages/forts.asp
I hope you and Sunny the wonder dog have a great trip and if you take pictures of the forts, please send them to us and we will post them on our site. Have Fun!! Lea Ann Rector, Fort Tours
23 March, 2006 Road Trip Ideas Response
Thank you so much for responding so quickly. After I sent you my first email -- I dug around in your site some more and found some great places!! Thank you for the heads up on Parker's Fort -- I have added to my list!! I will let you know about the pictures!! Thanks again -- great service you are site "~) Brenda
28 February, 2006, Neighbors/Baylor/Murphy
Rick, I am the great-grand-nephew of Patrick Murphy who was the first sheriff of Young Co. and a lieutenant in the Frontier Battalion. His name has been lionized by some of the poltically correct that would change history. He has been "historically" implicated in the murder of Major Neighbors, the Ft. Griffin Indian Agent, and has been accused of indiscriminantly killing peaceful Indians. Let me give my Murphy Family's rendition of the story.
21 February, 2006 Camp Cooper
I am planning a trip out to camp copper. I am wondering if there is access to the camp, or is it on private property and unaccessible?
Please find attached picture of Camp Cooper in Throckmorton County. You will note the caption verifies this site is on private land.
Friends of mine in Archer County who have been by there in the last year reported reconstruction, replica construction or at least, excavation of the place is being conducted by a state university. Please let us know of the activities you discover. Good Luck, Rick Steed
13 February, 2006 Jessie Chisholm
Hello I was wondering if you have any information abot Jessie Chisholm or any of his discendants? And if so would sharing the information or where I might be able to find any of this sort of information? My name is Tina Underwood and my mother's maiden name is Chisem, her father was Richard Edward Chisem and his father's name was Everrett Chism. I am trying to do some family history and am not really sure where to or even how to start to go about it. Any information or websites that you would be willing to share with me would be greatly appreciated. Thank You, Tina
Tina, You asked about information on Jessie Chisholm but looking at the spelling of your mother's maiden name leads me to believe that maybe you are related to John Chisem (Chisum) from New Mexico. Anyway, here are various web sites that I hope will get you started in the right direction.
http://www.forttours.com/pages/hmscnm.asp (My web site)
Good Luck, Rick Steed, Fort Tours
27 January, 2006 Braeutigan Family
Rick, I am searching for info. on the Braeutigan family. They purchased Ft. Martin Scott in 1870 and owned it until 1959. I noticed your e-mail address at the bottom of the Fort Tours website and hoped you could be of assistance. Any info you have could be helpful. My Great Great Grandfather opened the saloon there at FMS and was murdered in 1884. I am still trying to locate his first name. Again any info you have or can direct me to would be helpful. Thank You, Mike
Rick, I appreciate your quick response. I called FMS and the man there, Mac Burnett said that Mr. Camfield has retired. I was able to him for a short while and found that what the Historical society has on this family is about the same as what I have. We did exchange info and agreed to keep each other updated on new info coming in about the family. I thank you for your help and will keep your address on file in the event I think you could be of some help in the future. Thanks again,
21 January, 2006 Council House Fight
Where was the Council House Fight in SA? I'm assuming it was near La Villita? I can find no exact location or historical marker for this fight, which I consider one of the classic fights/battles in Texas history. I find it strange this is not considered a more worthy event in Texas history....great website, one of the very best on western history, if not THE BEST. We go to SA quite alot, I might have even walked by site without knowing. We are in Memphis, TN. now but will be moving to New Braunfels soon as wife's transfer comes through. Thanks! Mike Nunnally
Mike, Thanks for the compliments on my site. We do have a marker for the Council House Fight, however, it isn't listed as Council House fight but as Casas Reales. I have listed the actual marker information below: http://www.forttours.com/pages/hmbexar.com
20 December, 2005 Quanah Parker
First of all you have an outstanding web site. My great-grand father, Isacc Sullivan and my grandfather, Jesse Sullivan ran into Quanah Parker while crossing the Red River into Oklahoma. The way the story went, Quanah Parker was going after Geronimo. Quanah Parker did not like what Geronimo was doing; killing white people and giving the Indians a bad name. At the time, Quanah lived west of Lawton and Fort Sill, Oklahoma. The town is called Indiahoma, Oklahoma. There used to be a house in Indiahoma with big red stars on the roof of that house; that was Quanah Parker's house. The story that I was told by my grandfather and grandmother Sullivan is that my great-grandfather met up with Quanah Parker again. After my great-grandfather had moved west of Lawton and Fort Sill, Oklahoma. The town that my great-grandfather had moved to was and still is called Cache, Oklahoma. My great-grandmother is buried in Cache, Oklahoma. My great-grandfather had become very good friends with Quanah Parker. My grandfather Jesse Sullivan became friends with Quanah Parker's son. I think his name was Quanah Parker Jr. Quanah Parker's fathers name was Nokoni and his mother's name is Cynthia Ann Parker. Cynthia Ann Parker was a white captive. Also Nokoni was also called Quanah. My grandmother and grandfather had always told me that Quanah Parker took a white woman for his wife. What made me think about all this is the e-mail that was sent to Lea Ann about Quanah Parker who I have a lot of respect for the Parkers. I will try and come up with more information about this. Also Geronimo died at Fort Sill, Oklahoma. He was well into his 80s when he diee. Thank you for your time. I love your web site. Jerry Thomasson firstname.lastname@example.org
24 November, 2005 Huff Family Massacre
Rick, Some years ago, my cousin and I came across a cemetery that had covered wagon bows sticking up out of the ground. There was a marker that said the people had died in an Indian raid and were buried under the wagon to keep the Indians from desecrating the body. Any ideas where this is or the name of the cemetery? We were in north Texas. Michael Tate, email@example.com
Michael, I did a quick search and found this marker. Does this sound like it could be what you are talking about? You can read the story on our site at the following link: http://www.forttours.com/pages/tochuff.asp
31 October, 2005 Camp Verde
I was browsing around for some history stuff on my home town Camp Verde. I came across your website & think it has some good info. I wanted to send you an e-mail because being from one of Camp Verde's founding families, over 100 years, was surprised to see Camp Verde as being listed as part of Kerrville, City. You may already know but just in case you don't. Camp Verde is its own town however small it is with a population of 40 or so. Camp Verde is split between Kerr & Bandera County & is located between Kerrville & Bandera Texas. But if you did know,,, you know the Pace Picante commercial.. Get A Rope!!! Just kidding.
30 October, 2005 Montague County
Some of what I read was familiar as I have the History of Montague County. My great, great grandparents were in Montague in 1870; not sure how much before that, but they settled in Burlington, which is now Spanish Fort at the bend of the Red River. Family says they lived in a soddy with a false wooden floor. They said that the family hid beneath the planks when Indians raided. The mother would suckle her baby and give sugar tits to the young ones to keep them silent while their house and yard was being ransacked. They endured the lawlessness of the area until 1874 and picked up their belongings, cattle, hogs, & horses and moved closer to Bonita where the remaining children were born. Times were hard and primitive. The mother died of complications of childbirth, as did the child some months later. The father died trying to drive cattle across the Red River to market in Duncan, OT. There is a story of the sudden blizzard and long bitter winter that followed in about 1885, freezing the cattle to death where they stood. The remaining cattle died of disease in the spring.
Fri, 5 Aug, 2005 EB Dennis Article
I just happened to find your article when I typed in the name EB Dennis. I have a copy of the San Antonio Evening Newspaper, May 16, 1919, about EB Dennis and his wife. He is my great, great, however many that is, grandfather. My grandfather was John W. Dennis, EB’s great grandchild. I just wanted to let you know that I thought your article was interesting and lines up a lot with the newspaper story. Thanks,
Thurs, 9 June, 2005 Butterfield Question
Dear Sir, I am trying to find information about Uncle John, I know very little, other that, he was my father's, father's brother. I have some pictures of them. Do you know if there is any pictures of John Butterfield? if so, where could I find them? Was Uncle John a Southern Sympathizer as is folklore in our family, that caused him to loose the business, or was it just the railroad? My Grandfather's first name was Nathan. Do you have any information about John's family at all? If you have any answers to any of these questions, please contact me.
Larry, We don't have the information you requested but I have found a web site that might be helpful. Here is the contact information. Please call 785-751-4242, or e-mail at firstname.lastname@example.org and here is the web address: http://www.windyplains.com/butterfield/museum.html, Let us know if you find what you are looking for. Good Luck,
Wed, 2 June, 2005
Reading through your Web site I get the impression that you still think, that you, the White Americans, were fighting a just and honourable war against a savage and evil enemy. When in fact a growing technological and industrial superpower brought all of its might to bear, and wiped out an entire race of indigenous people, Men, Women, and Children, who were merely defending their Country, and their way of life and who fought with Bows and Arrows! It must make you so proud! ! !
Note: Sir, I am also English and so, have a foot in each pond.
Wholesale genocide was never the order of the day on America's frontier; how else could you explain our Indian casinos? Besides, I think the English were paying a bounty in Australia for Aborigines' ears until the dawn of the twentieth century, which was decades after cattlemen had become used to paying American Indian tribes both grazing and trailing rights on their reservations.
I take pride in offering as wide an account as is possible concerning each phase of America's frontier, at least, on the Southern Plains. A wider reading on your part might temper your perspective. Rick Steed, Fort Tours
Sun, May 1, 2005, McCoy Family
Hi Rick, I am related to the McCoy family killed in the Elm Creek raid 1864. James McCoy and son Miles are on the 1850 Cherokee CO TX census next to Mason Cope & Anna McCoy sister of James McCoy. These McCoys are from Floyd CO KY and are most likely realated to the McCoys involved in the Hatfield feud. David C. Cope Crowcope@aol.com
Fri, 21 Jan 21, 2005 Captain (Lieutenant) Lewis Johnson
My great grandfather was Colonel Lewis Johnson (Civil War) and Captain Lewis Johnson (as Indian Agent). He was at Fort Stockton for several years. I am writing a book on him. Would you have any information on him or would you know of a certified genealogist that I could hire to research his time at Fort Stockton? Thank you very much for your help in advance. Cheryl Johnson Ludecke , Great Granddaughter of Colonel (Captain) Lewis Johnson ( 44th usct, 42nd, and company G, 24th Infantry) email@example.com
Sun, Jan 9, 2005 Historical Marker Search
Hello from Indiana. My husband, who was born near the Red River in a little town called "Blossom" and I were driving in the hill country with dear friends of ours from Wilson, Tx. several years ago. We had been attending a funeral in Kerrville and decided to tour around afterwards to see the area. During our all day excursion, we came upon a Historical Marker which was of interest to us all. It was read, commented on and then sort of forgotten until a few weeks ago, when my interest really got the best of me. I have searched and searched but cannot find anyone that knows anything about "the pig/hog drive". We even asked our friends from Wilson if they remembered where that sign was and they also came up blank.
Knowing full-well, that the cowboys had bacon on the trail, why not have a pig or hog drive? They had beef, sheep and goats. They had chickens for eggs and meat. Why can't I find ANYTHING about this historical marker? I have found a lot of history around Kerrville and my husband and I appreciated the listing of history on your web site. But......still no pig or hog drive listed or mentioned. :o( Could I be in the wrong area? We were in the Hill Country.
None of us can remember where the marker was located. Now it is bothering me that I can't locate it on any historical sites. Can you PLEASE help us??? Would appreciate any information or ideas you might have on this subject. Thanking you in advance,
Dear Lea Ann, How can we ever thank you for all your effort in searching for this for us? We really appreciate it. I believe this is what we were looking for. Can't wait to show this to my husband when he comes home. I've already e-mailed your information to our friends in Wilson, Texas. I'm sure they will be delighted also. Thank you Lea Ann. Gratefully, Margaret and Burt Long
Fri, 19 Nov., 2004
It was 36 years ago, when I was 14 years old, and Dad took me and my brother over to the battle site near Devil's Canyon. We climbed up to Soldier Springs and discovered one of the most beautiful places I've seen anywhere. It was around the bend of the mountain from the battle site to Devil's Canyon where the old Wichita village was located, where the U.S. Dragoons and Osages visited 30+ years earlier. Dad found a human baby tooth discarded by an Indian kid, and I found in the rut of the dirt trail at the battle site, a .44 Henry flat nose bullet--obviously from the fight. Years later, after reading the recent historical archaeology performed on the Custer Little Bighorn battlefield (the book, Archaeolgical Perspectives of the Battle of the Little Bighorn by Scott, Fox, Conner and Harmon), I concluded that this spent lead bullet was apparantly fired from an 1860 Army Colt open-top revolver converted from the old cap and ball to the .44 Henry cartridge popular out west after the War. From the look of the lands and grooves, it was also apparant that the revolver barrel was fouled beyond belief, leading me to conclude that it was a seldom, if ever, cleaned weapon, and therefore probably was owned and fired by a Kiowa or Comanche warrior during the battle. Just as at other battle sites, you could close your eyes, feel the wind against your face, and faintly hear the shouts, sounds, and smells of the battle. It's a very special and secluded place.
Tues, 16 Nov, 2004 List of Forts
You, left out OLD FORT NIAGARA, it was used before and through the F & I War, held by French and English. Played part in the REV. WAR and the WAR OF 1812 had troops there during the CIVIL WAR and German Prisioners in WW2! Thanks for your Time! Sean7841@aol.com
Thurs, 11 Nov, 2004 William Youngblood
Hello, If you have time, I am interested in the information sited in the book, The West Texas Frontier, by Joseph Carroll McConnell. The author states that William Youngblood was the son-in-law of William Butler Fondren. The story also says, "Pleas Price, preparing to be married to Miss Bertha Parmer, was at Mr. Van Cleve's home at the time. .."Pleas Price badly tore his wedding clothes, in the timber, nevertheless, he was married that night. And Wm. Youngblood's scalp was returned before his funeral." According to the Parker County Marriage Records, Pleasant Price married Berthema Parmer on February 11, 1862, which would be the actual date of William Youngblood's death. As far as records show, Elmira Fondren Youngblood died in April of 1860. It doesn't seem possible that she was the wife of William Youngblood. In the 1860 Parker County, TX (Beat three) Census, W. Youngblood is married to "B" age 26 from Missouri. In the same year, James Leander Youngblood is listed as married to "E" age 25 from Mississippi. Adding all the pieces of the puzzle together, it seems more likely that William's brother James was married to Elmira Fondren.
In your research, do you have any information to prove (or disprove) who Elmira Fondren was truly married to?
Sat, 13 Nov, 2004 Response to Wiliam Youngblood
Rick, Thank you sooo much for the contact information for Jack Loftin. I got his phone number and had a wonderful, informative conversation this morning with him. I am purchasing two of his books plus a map of historical landmarks in the area we are interested in. He is very pleasant, and as you said "the best authority on North Texas genealogical questions." He asked me to send information that I have gathered for his museum and research. So again, thank you for this source. Judy firstname.lastname@example.org
Mon, 25 Oct., 2004
Rick, I feel sure you are familiar with the article written in the
Sat, 18 Sept., 2004
Hi, I ran across your photo of Fort Sandusky, But I'm unable to find any directions or location of this fort. Can you help me find these? Thanks, JD
JD, Our best estimate is the reproduction is in the Cedar Point Amusement Park though we can't verify it. If you find it, please let us know. We have been told there is a historical marker about the fort near the town. If you see this as well, please let us know. Rick Steed, Fort Tours (see response below)
Fri, 1 Oct., 2004
Hi Rick, rom my last correspondence with you, you mentioned if we find the fort to please let you know. Well, we found the historical marker for where Fort Sandusky was originally built in 1761. There is no Fort Sandusky that stands today, the picture that you have listed on your site is a reproduced exhibit at Cedar Point Amusement park. Here are a couple of links to verify this statement: http://hometown.aol.com/pointfan/frontiertrail.htm
The picture of the fort you have on your page is shown in the middle of that page. Here is the correct picture of the Ohio Historical Marker and its exact location near the town of Sandusky, Ohio. Leaving downtown Sandusky on State Route 6, headed west, you come to a turn in the road where Venice Road turns left onto Freemont Ave, (it's still Route 6.) This historical marker is on that corner. Its not a very big plot of ground and the intersection can be busy. Use caution crossing the road. End
You have quite a site here. The use of maps is fantastic as well as much of the history which is invaluable. The artwork is great!
Thurs, 4 Nov, 2004, Judith Alef
Sat, 4 Jan 2003
Roy, Thank you for visiting our site. The painting you are asking about is by Robert Lindneux. The following web site lists the museums that have collected his works, however, you have to become a member to access the information. I believe this site lists the phone numbers of each museum at no charge if you wanted to call each one. Hopefully the museum that has this particular piece will have a print for purchase. http://www.askart.com/artist/L/robert_ottokar_lindneux.asp I hope this helps! Rick Steed
Sat, 19 May 2001
Have you heard of a book named A Cry Unheard, The Story of Indian Attacks in and Around Parker County, Texas, 1858-1872? It's supposed to be in its fourth printing and available from Mary Kemp of the Abandoned Cemetery Association of Parker County at (817) 594-2612. I just read an excerpt in the Star Telegram about a murderous red-haired Comanche who turned out to be a West Point dropout that went bad. Sounds like it might be a pretty interesting book. Fred
Tue, 11 Jun 2002
Hi Richard, I took a look at your site and I was very impressed. I don't have time to review all or even part of it, but the section on Fort Belknap looked good to me. I just picked up a book this evening at Walden Books that I want to recommend to you. It is called "Savage Frontier," and it is a highly detailed and thorough history of the Indian fights on theTexas frontier 1835-1837. It came out this year from Republic of Texas Press, written by Stephen L. Moore. Have you seen it? It looks terrific. Thanks for listing my book on your site and keep up the good work! Clay Perkins
Wed, 12 Jun 2002
Wed, 04 Dec 2002
Subject: Savage Frontier
What a coincidence. We are building "blood trail" maps covering the early Texas settlements and, of course, a lot of the information has been gathered from your book. It should be uploaded on our site by this afternoon. You can go to the following link: http://www.forttours.com/pages/maps.asp and scroll to the Early Texas Settlements Map; click on it and it will take you to it. I am eagerly awaiting Volume II. I'm more than a little vague about expeditions involving McLeod/Dyer/Rusk/Tarrant/Sloan/Journey and hope you cover them as well as Hays, McCullough and Ford. You have probably noticed I am neither an historian or a writer, but an artist. I am involved in a project with co-author Mike Shropshire to produce something about a road trip through the Cross Timbers west of Fort Worth for the Republic of Texas Press. Mike has written a piece in this month's Playboy on George W. and an article about Prince Albert in last weeks Sports Illustrated.
I hope something a little irreverent will draw a audience to Texas history that otherwise wouldn't read such stuff except at the point of a six-shooter. Thanks for getting in touch and for writing Savage Frontier. Rick Steed, Fort Tours
Wed, 11 Jul 2001
Interesting web site. When are you going to add Camp/Fort Supply, Indian Territory (Oklahoma) to your list? Bob Rea, Site Supervisor, Fort Supply Historic Site
Sat, 19 May 2001
Hello RSteed: Discovered your web site tonight. It is very nice! I'm glad to see others have an interest in the history of the Young/ Jack County area. Like yourself, I have enjoyed researching the Young/Jack Co. area for quite some time. My Granparents are buried in the Finis cemetery. My Grandfather Fred Chesnut shared fence lines with "Bill" Ribble, in Finis. My Grandmother operated the Post Office in Finis and lived on a nearby hilltop a stones throw from Rock Creek. Buried next to the Marlow Brothers in the Finis cemetery is my Uncle George Short (an outlaw in his younger years). Being the same age as his friends the Marlow's he requested to be buried next to them when he died in the early 1950's. I'm very interested in the information from The West Texas Frontier, by Joseph Carroll McConnell. When was his work published? I have several books on Jack County History, although do not have a copy of his? I'm sure you have utilized the Library in Graham, they have excellent first hand accounts on microfilm from the old issues of the Graham Leader. Have you read any of the information from Barbara Neal Ledbetter? She is an older lady who I have visited with many times, she can be difficult to talk to. She works often at the Fort Belknap library and Archive. She has written several books on the history of the Young County including the account of the Marlow Brothers. I question some of her work, due to the lack of reference information in her book on the Marlow's. Glenn Shirley (TCU Press) has also written an account of the Marlow's. Mrs. Ledbetter claims he copied her work and took the credit? Congratulations again on a very nice web site, you have no doubt invested quite a lot of time and effort to create it. I go to Jack/Young County as often as possible to visit the Chesnut home place and my Grandparents farm in Olney, would love to hear who you have talked to in the Finis area. I'm also doing some related research on the Finis community. Best Regards, Wes J. Sheffield Burleson, Texas. email@example.com
Tue, 11 Dec 2001
My name is Joe Bruhl. I am a First Lieutenant at Ft. Hood, TX. My unit, B Company 1/227th AVN, is interested in taking a tour of a Texas battlefield. We would like the distance to be within several hours of Ft. Hood, and we would like it to be able to support several hours of discussion and tour. We have thought about the Alamo but would be interested in your suggestions. If you could e-mail your suggestions to firstname.lastname@example.org.Thank you, JOE BRUHL
Sat, 16 Mar 2002
I read a small introduction to a story about my great-grandfather from forttours.com. It started as "Nathan McDow & Son, Nathan who lived about 5 miles north of Alexander, in Erath Co., was about 1/2 mile from him home hauling rails, and was assisted by one son. The 2 were..."
I was unable to open the file. I was able to go to forttours.com home page & read everything I could there. The link for the page I was looking for is www.forttours.com/pages/564.htm. I have been unable to find much information on my grandfather. I just recently found out he was born in Erath Co., TX. Any information you could give me about this story would be greatly appreciated. Thanks, Beverly McDow Kerns
Thank you so much for replying. I have been searching for information on my grandfather for a long time. I believe this Nathan was his father. I wish I could find more. Thanks again, Bev
Beverly, if you are looking at this site again, please see the following e-mail: Hello, A distant cousin posted the following to your website: (your e-mail above was here). Do you have an email address for Bev? If so, would you please send it to me or email her and ask her to contact me. Thanks, David Coon email@example.com
Fri, 29 Mar 2002
I am looking for a ranch or a farm that is an actual working frontier style living ranch with authintic cloths and people using old tools and such. Thanks and GOD bless, Kyle-I want to take my kids there for Easter.
Sun, 12 May 2002
This Email is to inquire or ask for your assistance in locating a suspension bridge in Shackelford County near Fort Griffin. The only information that I can found is that is that it is located somewhere in Shackelford County on the Clear Fork of the Brazos River, near Fort Griffin State park.I would greatly appreciate any help or possibly instructions or directions to get to this bridge from Fort Griffin or Albany. Thanking you in advance, Gary Pirkle
Tue, 28 May 2002
On the page: http://www.forttours.com/pages/toctupper.asp, this should read Tullius C. Tupper - not Jullius C. Tupper. He is a distant uncle. Thanks, Mike
Fri, 27 Sep 2002
A few months back I emailed about a page on your site:
Wed, 12 Jun 2002
Your site is marvelous, I cant complement you enough. I do have two questions
about the site if I might.
Sat, 17 Aug 2002
On page 378 of On the Border with Mackenzie, Capt. Carter states that Sgt. Charles B Charlton was recommended and never got his MEDAL OF HONOR-notify your Congressman or woman and make it happen before we leave this world too
Mon, 26 Aug 2002
I just ran across your website and found it very informative. I was able to locate two of my family members, Martin Cathey and Jackson Hale, under the Indian attacks section. I also ran a cross the page that has the various flag markers situated on a picture of the various counties. I found the flag that was representative of my family members under Parker County. In my genealogy research, thus far, I have not been able to accurately locate the exact location of the attack and murder of these two boys and was hoping that perhaps you might be able to help me with this. Do you have a more specific and accurate location for where this took place?? My family is very interested in learning as much as possible about this attack, and would like to have a historical marker erected sometime in the future. Any help, or references that you could provide me with would be very much appreciated. Thanks again for your time. Sincerely, Shanna Villines
Fri, 6 Sep 2002
Tip See buried in the old Cox cemetery in South West Parker county. He was killed and originally buried in a shallow grave southwest of Santo. I believe I have located that original site and am planning to use my experience as a mortician to see if I can locate the actual original grave site later this year.
Tue, 17 Sep 2002
Thank you for your help in promoting Fort Chadbourne and for all the site you have added. This is really nice and a great way to promote the wonderful resources the State of Texas has to offer people. We appreciate your help!
Mon, 30 Sep 2002
I just wanted to write and say that the picture you have of Oska Horseback is a picture of my great,great grandfather Chief Horseback. My mothers maiden name is Horseback, she is the last living granddaughter in the direct bloodline of Chief Horseback. I just wanted to ask where you got the name Oska? I have never heard of him referred to as this. Sincerely, Deborah Bellavia
Thu, 03 Oct 2002
Thanks for adding Fort Adams link to your website. Our Calendar of Events is up to date - just let us know if you have questions. Thank you, Mary Beth Smith, Fort Adams Trust
Mon, 21 Oct 2002
Hello. My husband is a descendant of Big Foot Wallace but the family, to my knowledge, has no photo's. I found the photo at the forttours.com web site and am wondering if you have the photo and if copies would be available to purchase? Would appreciate any assistance! Thank you. Lisa West
I have enclosed a different picture of Big Foot Wallace that we know for sure where it came from. It's from the book, Life of "Big Foot" Wallace by A. J. Sowell. In the cover, it gives the name of Mr. Gianfranco Spellman, DVM, as the contributor of this picture. I looked up his address and phone number for you, if it helps. The other picture came from a book that we have loaned out and we can't remember the name of it. When it comes back, I will let you know the name of the book. Lea Ann Rector, Fort Tours
This is GREAT!! I've already contacted Dr. Spellman and have an email to obtain additional information. I appreciate your prompt reply and the attached file. Lisa West
Sun, 3 Nov 2002
I am trying to find out what Indian reservations were in the Tarrant county area during the 1930's. If you have any information, could you please e-mail me back? Holly
There have never been any Indian reservations in Tarrant County but there were two in the 1850s in Young and Throckmorton Counties. They are discussed at the following link: http://www.forttours.com/pages/922.asp If you have any additional questions, please feel free to e-mail me. I noticed your e-mail address has quanah; any relation to Quanah Parker? Lea Ann Rector, Fort Tours
Thanks for the info!! My husband's name is Quanah and he is named after Quanah Parker. I believe he is related through his grandmother. His grandmother had some tribal connections but I believe she was from Mexico. That is all I know. Thanks again for the link. Holly
Wed, 20 Nov 2002
I have a Ft. Concho No. 90 Fez and am trying to find information as to the age, etc. As I was helping with my late aunt's estate I found the Fez, it is purple with gold lettering with the words: Ft. Concho No. 90. The label on the inside is: Made by The Lilley Co. Columbus, Ohio. At the top of the label is: The Lilley, Regalia MRSF Columbus Ohio. My aunt lived in Benjamin, Texas and I have no idea how she acquired the Fez. If you could shed some light on this I would really appreciate it. Thank You, Willa Cunningham
Wed, 11 Dec 2002
You recently sent us an e-mail inquiring about a Fort Concho Fez which
I forwarded to Fort Concho. I was wondering, were they able to help you?
Lea Ann Rector, Fort Tours